In this episode of ILLUMENATE, Chris sits down with Rev. Dr. Prince Robertson, Dean of Students for Inclusion and Advocacy at Illinois Wesleyan University. A minister, educator, author, and father, Dr. Robertson shares an intimate look into the personal and professional journey that has shaped his life. From Harlem to Saginaw to Champaign-Urbana, he weaves a story of grit, growth, and giving back, drawing from his experiences in faith, family, and the academy.
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Prince’s “why” is firmly rooted in family, faith, and service. He opens up about the cultural shift of moving from the vibrancy of Harlem to the industrial grit of Saginaw, Michigan, and how that transition laid the foundation for the man he would become. His early academic struggles, including failing to graduate on time from high school and later flunking out of college, are shared with raw honesty. Yet it is in these struggles where his resilience shines brightest. Through a mix of divine timing, support networks, and sheer determination, he finds redemption in education—eventually earning advanced degrees and devoting his life to advocating for students who need a second chance, just as he once did.
The episode explores what it means to be vulnerable, especially as a Black man, a father, and a leader in higher education. Prince reflects on unlearning toxic expectations of masculinity and replacing them with values that promote authenticity, discipline, and compassion. He offers candid insights into how he raises his sons differently, prioritizing academics and integrity over societal pressures, and how his involvement in community service and theater has become a shared experience with his family. His ability to balance fatherhood, ministry, and student advocacy highlights a model of leadership grounded in humility and love.
Listeners will be inspired by Prince’s reflections on friendship, accountability, and the role of community in personal development. He emphasizes the importance of finding people who are just as imperfect as you are—those with whom you can share openly and be held accountable. Above all, he hopes his story serves as proof that redemption is possible and that life’s challenges can be used as catalysts for transformation and purpose.
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